Survey Female Football Fans – Polls

Thank you for all the responses regarding yesterday’s article (HERE), keep them coming!

We’ve created two polls, for women.


Please take some time out of your schedule and tell me your story as a female football fan.
All information is in the post below or click HERE.
Read it and please share it with women you know, on facebook, twitter, wherever.

Contact:
Email: ohtobeagoonerette@gmail.com
Twitter: @EvaMcL3
Or leave a comment below.

Calling all female football fans!

There are a lot of female football fans and luckily a lot of them attend games of their favourite teams. Thankfully most of them thoroughly enjoy attending these games, but unfortunately some of them have a negative experience and refuse to attend another game ever again.

As a female football fan myself, I found it difficult to just listen to these (negative) stories and not do anything with it. I personally love going to football games, my favourite ones being Arsenal (away) games. I’ve been lucky enough to attend other big games such as the 2012 Champions League final in Munich and I also travelled to Poland and the Ukraine for Euro2012. I’ve had some negative experiences, but 99% of the time the men and women I meet at games are polite, respectful, friendly and a lot of fun. Better yet, most are happy to see women attending games (for a variety of reasons I’m sure).

I find it extremely difficult to not punch a guy in the face when he blatantly accuses me of watching football for the hot guys and then dares to ask me to explain the offside rule (side note: ladies, punching might help to get rid of your frustration, but the best way to shut them up is by throwing in stats&facts and ask them to explain it in ‘normal English’, works really well if you want a good laugh).
As the granddaughter of an extremely proud Arsenal fan, with mostly sons and grandsons, I was raised with football and football fans all around me -and rugby&MMA, which is a completely different story. Though my father doesn’t like football, anymore, my mother has always been a football fan and proud volunteer at a local club. My gramps always encouraged me to play football, he made me read the game and feel comfortable with the ball, he helped me to understand the game from a very early age, he taught me how to analyse games, think of tactics and possible lineups and he taught me everything his (grand)parents taught him about Arsenal and the club’s history.
So you may understand that, besides my love for Arsenal, I love the game, have a passion for both the game and the club and how annoying it is when certain people keep telling me that I can’t understand because, get ready for this, I’m a woman. My passion for and knowledge of the game has been questioned so many times that I lost count and I keep having to defend myself, simply because I was born as a girl -which isn’t exactly something I can change.

I thought the best way to figure out how the majority of women see this, is to ask them about their experiences.

So if you’re a woman who loves football and attends football games, tell me your story. What is your favourite memory, your worst experience? Should something change within the football world or do you think it’s fine the way it is? Are the football clubs responsible, are fans responsible or is someone/something else responsible? Is there enough room and space for women, or are men still calling the shots, and should this change? What about women working in football, we all know Chelsea doc Eva Carneiro is basically a sex object to most male football fans and therefore accepted, whereas Premier League official Sian Massey gets abuse left, right and centre, should there be more women in top flight football? How many times has someone told you that you only watch football for the hot guys? Do people take you seriously when you discuss football?
You don’t have to answer all of these questions -you can if you want to- I just want to hear your side of the story.

Contact:
Email: ohtobeagoonerette@gmail.com
Twitter: @EvaMcL3
Or leave a comment under this post.

Arsenal Ladies F.C. – Honours

As many of you know, I’ve always loved the Arsenal Ladies and I personally believe the Ladies deserve more attention than they’re actually getting –get ready for this, because it’s A LOT!

HONOURS
Arsenal Ladies F.C. was founded in 1987 and have won 60 trophies so far (in all fairness, 15/60 are somewhat smaller trophies).

clip_image002UEFA Women’s Cup Winners – 2007
Name changed to Women’s Champions League.

clip_image004FA Women’s Super League Champions – 2011, 2012
Founded: 2011
Arsenal Ladies are (quite obviously) the most successful club in the league’s three years history:
Winners: 2x.
Liverpool won in 2013.

clip_image006FA Women’s Premier League Champions – 1993, 1995, 1997, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010
Founded: 1991/1992
In 2011 the top tier of women’s football (in England) was named the Women’s Super League.
Arsenal Ladies are the most successful club in the league’s history:
Winners: 12x
Runners-up: 3x
Second most successful club are Charlton Athletic: Winners -3x. Runners-up -2x.

clip_image008FA WSL Continental Cup Winners – 2011, 2012, 2013
Founded in 2011
Yes, Arsenal Ladies are the most successful club in this Cup’s history.
Winners: 3x

clip_image010FA Women’s Cup Winners – 1993, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Founded: 1970
Arsenal Ladies are the most successful club in the FA Cup’s history:
Winners: 12x
Runners-up: 1x
Second most successful club in the Cup’s history is Southampton (winners 8x, runners-up 3x) though the last time they won was 1981.

clip_image012FA Women’s Premier League Cup Winners – 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2007, 2009
Founded: 1991/1992
Arsenal Ladies are the most successful club in the Cup’s history:
Winners: 10x
Runners-up: 3x
Second most successful club in the Cup’s history is Charlton Athletic (winners 2x, runners-up 2x)

clip_image014FA Women’s Community Shield Winners – 2000 (shared with Charlton Athletic), 2002, 2006, 2007, 2008
Founded: 2000
Arsenal Ladies are the most successful club in the Shield’s history:
Winners: 5x (okay, one was shared)
Runners-up: 2x.
Second most successful club in the Shield’s history is Charlton Athletic (winners 2x –one shared, runners-up 1x)
Held: 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008
Not held: 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013.

London County FA Women’s Cup Winners – 10x.
National League South Champions – 1x (1992)
Highfield Cup – 1x (1991)
Reebok Cup – 2x (1992 and 1996)
AXA Challenge Cup – 1x (1999)

I told you it was a lot didn’t I? Exactly. As these statistics show, Arsenal are basically the most successful club in almost every single Cup or League.

Can we now start appreciating the Ladies a bit more?

Next posts –in no particular order:
· Arsenal Ladies – Squad
· Arsenal Ladies – Staff
· Arsenal Ladies – Player statistics 2012/2013 and 2013/2014 (so far)
· Arsenal Ladies – Cups, games, goals.
· Arsenal Ladies – Videos, collages, pictures

See you soon.

Diary of a Gooner: The Gunners will field a strong team against Chelsea.

EXCLUSIVE: The Gunners will field a strong team against Chelsea in the COC.

In the past few years, Arsène has gone with a team that is inexperienced but talented in the League cup. However this year, the league cup has to be taken seriously in order for Arsenal to break their silverware drought. The principle is the same, rotation will be made, but not as much as expected. Arsenal will be playing Chelsea, mind. This isn’t West Brom or Coventry. Chelsea have huge quality in depth which makes them a step ahead of tomorrow’s game. However Arsène has decided to field a strong team, but leave out the likes of Giroud and Özil due to fatigue and injuries. There may be some youngsters playing such as Gnabry and Ryo, however, they are ready for the first team, so it shouldn’t be a big problem.

     Now, do Arsenal have enough quality to beat Chelsea?
With the probable team that will be starting I don’t see why we shouldn’t beat them with flying colours. The atmosphere will be vibrant and the crowd will get behind their team. Arsenal need to win, Arsenal is a momentum club and I’m sure they can get through to the next round.

Probable line up : Fabianski, Monreal, Vermaelen(C), Mertesacker, Jenkinson, Wilshere, Ramsey, Rosicky, Ryo, Bendtner, Gnabry

Probable Bench: Viviano, Akpom, Cazorla, Gibbs, Eisfeld, Hayden, Zelalem.

Ree Rahman

They claim to be “In The Know”, but are they? – Part III – Results

After a lot of research, saving images, talking to ITKs, talking to you, writing about it, asking you to get involved, creating polls and most importantly getting blocked by several ITKs -my heart’s broken- I think it’s about time I show you guys who won/lost the 6 polls I created.

Let’s start with the three polls that were only open for 6 hours:

Who do/did you follow: 

Who do you still believe: 

Who is the best: 

Now for the other three:

Who was the most frustrating: 


OtherFrustrating

Who was the most disappointing: 

OtherDisappointing

Who’s the worst: 

OtherWorst

Do you agree/disagree with the outcome?

Also, a massive thank you to the one who chose me as the worst, most disappointing and most frustrating ITK, I didn’t even know I was ITK, so thank you!

They claim to be “In The Know”, but are they? – Part II – Followers

Thank you so much for all the positive feedback regarding Part I, this goes for both the ITKs as for people like me. I was amazed by how positive most of your reactions were, I expected that some of you were going to be furious.

Anyway, in Part I you could read why I started this and what the some of the ITKs tweeted. In this part I’ll be talking about their followers.

Let’s first take a look at how many followers each of the ITKs have on twitter:

IndyKaila

IndyFollowers

WayneGooney18/AbrokeDiaby

N.A. – both accounts have been deleted, but protected first, therefore you can’t trace the tweets

OpinionDan

DanFollower

Agent Jim

JimFollower

In case you missed it, he used to be a football agent.

Ben Fairthorne

BenFairthorneFollower

HighburyStand

HSFollower

ShereWillPower

ShereWillPowerFollower

DialSquare_1886

DA1886Follower

GeoffArsenal

GeoffFollower

These were taken on 12/09/13.

For those of you who do not have any experience with twitter, IndyKaila’s got the most followers and ShereWillPower the least.

The most powerful Arsenal ITK is Geoff and I don’t think there are many Arsenal fans on twitter who don’t know who Geoff is. Despite half of the Arsenal fans hating (on) him constantly, Geoff manages to (usually) stay polite even when he receives abuse.

Your reactions

Here’s a selection of the tweets I received:

Though most of you were willing to send screencaptures of the tweets, hardly anyone wanted credit for them, which I believe is rather odd, are you afraid either one of them is going to bite your head off?

I did receive a few reactions and there were basically three types of reactions.

1. Hate
2. Annoyance (e.g. Getting your hopes up, everyone suddenly believes every single rumour)
3. People shouldn’t take it too seriously and just laugh.

Alex: “ITKs annoy me, more than you’ll ever know. They also entertain me though.”
Rebecca: “I don’t understand why, most of these accounts are hosted by adults, do they not have a job?!”
Adam: “I don’t follow ITKs, I don’t want to follow any ITKs either, but you can’t escape their rumours, not if you’re on twitter.”
Terese: “I find it funny how they can lie to us, get our hopes up and eventually get upset because we aren’t happy and no longer trust them.”
John: “They should just shut the f*ck up, bunch of c*nts!”

What made me laugh is how you all attacked every single one of them, including Geoff on twitter. Screaming you have screencaptures of his deleted tweets and when I asked you about them I received about 600+ screencapture of Indy, Ben, Dan etc. and those who did email me screencaptures of Geoff either asked to stay anonymous, or it was the 42 million German tweet. Yet as soon as he turns his back a lot of you attack him, but you seem to be too scared to actually mention him.

How did the ITKs react?

Geoff has been rather supportive of this blog post and shared it with his followers, despite knowing there are a lot of ‘haters’ following him.

We tried to get in touch with Indy, he hasn’t responded yet.

DialSquare_1886, OpinionDan and BFairthorne have all been in touch and gave me their opinion.

DialSquare_1886:

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Ben Fairthorne:

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OpinionDan:

He posted a comment to Part I:

Ahh you fail to mention that i said Gervinho to move to Roma, that Reina indeed moved to Napoli when others said Cesar, I also went against the others by saying we were not going for Bernado, Gustavo and that Bender was wanted but wages were an issue. Oh and I mentioned that Per would be captain, even if by default, that one remains to be seen. I also mentioned Dein coming back and in light of new speculation that Gazidis could be pushed out next summer or sooner I wonder who his replacement will be?!

What 140 characters will never explain is reasons and what alot of people don’t get is how or why transfers come off or don’t. The info I get comes from the top, not some boy in the box office or press office, but those who make the financial decisions for Arsenal. I cannot reveal who it is, but what people have to realise is this.
When a player’s name is given to the board, when the negotiations start between clubs, agents and players, many things can happen for and against.
For example, two players. Higuain was agreed. Napoli gazumped us and Wenger refused to up the money for the player, another example was Rooney. At the end of last season he was extremely unhappy and his agent started talks with as many clubs as to who were interested. We asked for a medical, which was laughed about at the time, but players have medicals all the time, out of the transfer windows so agents, clubs and the likes can check on a player’s fitness. The thing with Rooney is he became injured and returned early from tour and then Moyes had a sit down with him and they have agreed to see how it goes certainly until January. Since they sat down Rooney got injured again, this time more serious.

To clarify, Giles is a made up name of the person I speak to, he is real, he is at Arsenal and what he gives is upto date info, but that alwys seemed to changed, sometimes hourly.

I actually said Cesc was NOT coming back, his agent ( Darren Dein ) lives not far from me and the speculation of him returning to England was all because his girlfriend got Cesc to buy her ex marital home in Knightsbridge which fuelled paper talk.

Cesar failed due to players wages, we were very close to the deal and everything was agreed in principle, but Wenger changed his mind once the wage demands went over what was agreed originally.

Suarez was NEVER about staying in the Premier League, he wants to go to Spain. His agent, Pep’s brother had given Arsenal wrong information about his contract, infact it was a subliminal message to clubs in Spain to let them know how much they would need to bid for his services. Suarez doesn’t want to stay in England so why would he talk to Arsenal. Yet again our naive Gazidis was led up the wrong garden path.

The Bale deal was indeed the trigger for alot of transfers, Madrid do not have the deep pockets they once had, and had to sell in order to finance the Bale deal, hence why we got Ozil. Again I claimed we were not in for Di Maria and Benzema didn’t want to leave Madrid.

Finally, i think you will find, I gave the Ozil as done on the morning it happened and said he would wear the no.11. well before anyone reported it as done late that afternoon. not that I wanting bragging rights or anything ;)

The situation Arsenal now face unlike our rivals down the road, is they never secured the replacements for players they let go. Look at all the players who have been shipped out, rightly or wrongly, and all we got was one world class player. Our squad needs to be improved and the board will see to this in Jan.

The other problem is Gazidis, telling everyone who wants to listen we can afford big transfers and big wages and we are bringing in world class players does not help anyone when sitting down at the negotiating table.

I think if you want to do a full dossier on those you claim to be ITK, atleast give them the right to reply.

Kind regards
Dan
p.s Giles says hi”

Thanks Dan.

Do you guys remember that picture of Dan arguing with the O2? It continued:

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However, HighburyStand, ShereWillPower and Agent Jim haven’t.

Poll results will be automatically posted tomorrow!

Thank you.

They claim to be “In The Know”, but are they? – Part I – Tweets

We’ve all seen them, even if we didn’t care it was impossible to avoid them… ITKs. People who claim to have inside sources at a football club, people who claim to be BFF with football agents and/or claim to be related to football players. They get our hopes up and disappoint us.

I decided to save screencaptures of their tweets, just to see who was right/wrong at the end of the transfer window.

Here’s Part I – What did they tweet?

IndyKaila

I think every single one of us knows he’s a fraud by now. For those who aren’t quite convinced, here are just a few of Indy’s tweets:

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I don’t even know where to start… Let’s move on.

WayneGooney18/ABrokeDiaby

For those who’ve been following this blog for a while, you know that Ree wrote a post about WayneGooney18, also known as ‘abrokediaby’. In case you are not familiar with either one of these accounts -we all envy you- here are  a few tweets:

WayneGooney18:

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abrokediaby:

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So boys, where is Cesc? Or Higuaín/Rooney/Fellaini/Cesar?

In case you want to contact either WayneGooney18 or abrokediaby, both accounts are either deleted or suspended. I guess we’ll never know why Cesc didn’t join and why we never signed a striker…

OpinionDan

Some believe him, some don’t. Here’s a few of Dan’s tweets:

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Couple of things, it’s Higuaín* and you were right. The deal’s done, unfortunately not with Arsenal.
Both Rooney and Fellaini are playing for Manchester United this season.
Arsène Wenger confirmed we were actually in for Suárez*.
Unless Cesar changed his name to Viviano, I’m pretty sure that deal wasn’t done.

Agent Jim

Apparently Agent Jim is a young lad living in Tottenham, supporting Spurs and Ipswich and he’s not “ITK”, mind you I got this information from another ‘ITK’ so I’m not quite sure if this is true.

Anyway, Agent Jim didn’t have that much new information. Take a look at his tweets:

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If the ‘kid’ placed a bet on you not knowing what on earth you’re talking about, I think he won. Well done kiddo!

…at least he knows how to spell the names…
Oh wait, Higuaín*.

Ben Fairthorne

We all know this guy, right? If you don’t, you’re probably not on twitter. If you are and you somehow managed to avoid this guy, you deserve an award. Well done, take a bow!

Check out some of his tweets:

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Le sigh.
Keep up the good work Ben, you’re doing great!

HighburyStand

For your information, this guy claims to have Pat Rice in his list of contacts on his phone. Just so you know, here’s what his sources told him:

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Three things. 1. Who’s Gamez? 2. I think Gustavo really did prefer Wolfsburg 3. What happened to Suárez?

Nice try though,

ShereWillPower

You introduced me to this guy. Here are two of his tweets:

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WIlliams? No. Cesar? No. Nani? No. Gervinho? Yeah, he actually left.

DialSquare1886

Some of you believe this guy is trustworthy, others believe he’s worse than Indy. Some of you like him, others don’t.

Here are a few of his tweets:

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Is someone trying to be better than Geoff?

GeoffArsenal

Now that I’ve mentioned him anyway, let’s look at some of his tweets. Some people hate him, others love him. Some people believe he always has everything right, others believe he’s just talking. Here’s a few tweets from Geoff:

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Say whatever you want about Geoff, he’s always politically correct in his responses.

Others

There were more accounts claiming to have inside information. Here are a few tweets:

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Funny Moments

The Abou Diaby outside a mosque tweet:

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Opinion Dan versus O2:
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The Joey Barton to West Ham rumours:

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Oh and there was this wee argument between WayneGooney18 and OpinionDan:

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And people talking about it:

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Conclusion

I think it’s safe to say 99% do not have a clue what on earth they’re on about. Those who may have a guy on the inside make mistakes as well. Truth of the matter is, no deal is done until either the player, the club or the player’s former club confirmed it. Yes, speculation is fun and it keeps us all entertained, but is it really worth it? Do these guys really deserves this much attention? The worst part is we can’t seem to help ourselves, we want to believe their rumours so bad. I personally find most of the ITKs annoying as f*ck, yet after speaking to some of them, they were actually quite nice. Most of them think they actually have the power to change Arsenal’s plans, others genuinely believe this is the way to help fellow fans and to keep them updated and a few actually believe they know what’s going on, when they don’t.

It’s up to you if you still believe ITKs, or people who claim to be ITK. Please consider your heart and your feelings before making your decision and please realise that abuse is not the way to go. It doesn’t matter who it is, what they claim to be or why they do it, they are people and they don’t deserve to receive threats (and those who do, only deserve it because they’re challenging you and they want your attention, if you really hate them that much, don’t give them the attention).

Tonight will be Part II of the ITK saga, which will include your views on the matter
(you can still send an email with your views to ohtobeagoonerette@gmail.com)

More pictures will be added to the galleries throughout the weekend.

Thank you so much for all the RTs and Shares. Keep it up!
Thank you to everyone who’s sent me emails with screencaps, I am still trying to get through all of them -which is why more pictures will be added throughout the weekend- I received 1042 emails from you guys so far and hopefully even more after you read this post.

Don’t forget to vote on the polls!
Results will be posted in Part III (this Sunday) in which we’ll reveal who’s helped out with the screencaptures!

GoonerGolazo: Diary of a Gooner – Arsenal bid spectacularly low again!

Arsenal have reportedly made an offer for Valencia goalkeeper Vicente Guaita after negotiations took place throughout the week. Vicente Guaita was targeted by Arsenal after it was seen that the player was keen to leave Valencia should he not be able to hold down a commanding position over challenging goalkeeper Diego Alves.

In a World Cup year players are always keen to leave if they aren’t getting regular game time, and with the mix up going on at Valencia, in deciding who their main goalkeeper is, I’m sure Guaita wants more assurances. So, in swooped Arsenal with an opening offer according to Spanish reports and a bid of £4 million was made. A fair price for a goalkeeper as rarely do you see big money moves in football for the goalkeeping position, however the bid is still a tad low in my opinion.

The bid did in fact turn out to be more than a tad low, it was ridiculously low after Valencia supposedly wanted a massive £25 million for the keeper! Now on first thought you may be thinking either, Vicente Guaita is a very good goalkeeper, or that he has a massively inflated price tag. To be honest it’s a bit of both! You can never expect to get that sort of money for a keeper however he is quality and I’d be happy to see him in the Arsenal line-up. But Arsenal’s measly bid doesn’t look to be very promising and I won’t expect Arsenal to go back with a bid of more than £7 million, that’s if we go back in for him at all.

It’s not the first time Arsenal have bid very low on a player before with transfer rumours always being spread about Arsenal over the last few years. In some cases our bid has been too low that it’s been publicly laughed at and then a rival swoops in to snap them up! In terms of the technique, I see why Wenger does it. It means we can try and get the player for the cheapest price available. The other club will more than likely reject the first offer and then come back with their own valuation meaning we don’t just have to throw random high money bids out there, however in situations like these come towards the end of the window, it’s more than necessary that we stop playing around and get down to business.

What do you think Gooners, will this bizarre transfer technique actually lead to any signings this summer?

GoonerGolazo: Diary of a Gooner – Arsène Wenger.

So much angst has been expended and so many blogging hours have been spent fretting about the capability of AW to do some business on the Transfer Market, and yet what are we talking about?

After 8 fruitless years or so, Gazidis has told us the club are now in the happy position of being able to afford new, quality players. Yippee!

We have all become impatient watching the big spenders go out and buy all the goodies in the shop with a plethora of top quality players ending up with Real, Barca, City, Chelsea etc. and all of them winning trophies while we end up holding the wooden spoon after buying Denilson, Santos, Arshavin, Gervinho et al.

But, so far in this window what has changed? We have only one token freebie player in Sanogo to show for it. Although to be fair we have made promising noises about Suarez, Rooney and various others rumoured to be ‘eyed’ or ‘trialled’ by our manager.

This state of affairs has made even some of the longtime Wenger supporters, including me, get itchy under the collar, and others to become genuinely depressed.

There has been much understandable grumbling from fans about the cost of season tickets in an economically difficult climate, as well as the increased travel costs etc, whereas Arsenal we are told are coining it with TV deals, gimormous sponsorship deals and money flowing in from our Asian fanbase, blah, blah. We have dosh coming out of every orifice it would seem.

But where is the pay back? Why have we started the season with the same squad as last season and sod all has happened with regard to transfers? As someone who might be called a Wenger loyalist, I have to agree that many of my fellow Gooners are on edge, and if the window closes without significant additions, there is likely to be an Arsenal fans summer revolution with boos sounding out around the ground at the first sign of a poor performance and goodness knows what will happen when we lose, heralding protest groups who will arrange marches at every turn.

The tom tom beats of disgruntled fans on the blogs should send out a wake-up call to AW and the Board that they must buy and buy now, but not just any old player, there must be at least one marquee signing!

Arsene has enjoyed considerable support from the fans over the years, but many of us will feel the urge to call for his head if this season peters out to being yet another disappointment as regards to trophies or even at least fighting for the top in the PL.

Frankly it cannot be denied that the Board have given Arsene a huge amount of leeway in which to run the football part of the club, and if he does not deliver this season, sadly it might be time to call for an end to his era.

@GoonerGolazo

Diary of a Gooner: Friday – August 16th, 2013

One more day..

Today’s hottest topics? Gustavo, Bendtner and Michu.

Gustavo signed for Wolfsburg. Gooners lost it. No one knows if we were actually in for Gustavo and/or if the Wolfsburg deal was already done before rumours started, but he’s not ours so enough reason to have start, yet another, meltdown. I wish Gustavo a lot of luck at Wolfsburg.

Michu is not for sale, not even for a ridiculous amount of money. According to Swansea’s manager. With Suárez apologising to Liverpool, Rooney… I don’t really know what Rooney’s up to at the moment and Higuaín signing for Napoli, ITKs came up with Michu. Who’s not for sale. Yes, that was enough reason to have a meltdown.

In more positive news, there’s a Turkish team interested in Nicky B. Maybe, just maybe, we’re finally getting rid of him.

In other news, Mertesacker will be captain, – Vermaelen, Monreal and Arteta are out. – Wellington has joined Real Murcia on a season-long loandeal. – Mo Farah is World Champion on 5000m. –

Premier League season 2013/2014 starts tomorrow!

@EvaMcL3